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Arthur opens his archive!

Well I've just got back half an hour ago from the first showing of Devious for years. Not since we put the clips together for the War Games DVD a year ago have we watched any. And in celebration of the release we gave ourselves a deadline to get the existing footage together and watch it. This meant refining the edit, adding credits, adding music guides, adding some new effects adding sounds etc until the whole thing could be watched in an evening - all of this David achieved magnificently. Thanks David.

The Doctor and Brogar - 24th July 2009

Well we watched it. And we had some new people in the small audience (a dozen or so of our friends) who had never seen it. We even had a special guest (Amanda Evans who played Brogar came along - and we hadn't seen her in 14 years!!). We wanted to see what they all thought. They'd all seen the War Games DVD and in unison afterwards they said they now understood the War Games scene with Jon Pertwee. The scenes with Peter Tuddenham and Hugh Lloyd were also shown in their uncut versions (they are twice as long as the War Games versions as they included plot points not relevant to WG).They also saw the full edited versions of the episodes and immediately saw where the montage used in the War Games clip came from. They also saw how we had to change it slightly to fit the War Games release - ie they saw the clips in their original context - i.e. people weren't always running away from amorphous blobs!

Still, as you may have read elsewhere on the site - we were constrained in what we could put onto the War Games release and also of necessity we couldn't make too many changes to the footage bar perhaps overcook a few effects here and there by way of compensation. As the DWM review this month rightly says, it had moved on from it's state in the early nineties not always to everyone's taste but then each version of the JP edit that we have done has been different - it's a question of balance to get the scene right - we have had a few goes over the years and one day we'll get the perfect version.

Of course Devious is not real Doctor Who - it is something for a group of friends to see - it always has been - and this wider audience now of the War Games segment (due to the need for the DW archive to have the Pertwee scene) has meant we've come under the microscope. We're just a fan thing - and tonight in showing it to friends as we periodically do we gave ourselves a boost in gauging their reactions. Not enough to give us any false hope that it'll be seen somewhere like the Spielberg Raiders of the Lost Ark tribute film recently given a nod of approval and an airing in a real cinema - but enough of a nod for us to get it finished for the sake of having something that is complete. A story of a Doctor extracted from his timestream in mid-regeneration being offered the chance to be "the real Doctor" and then losing it again and being forced to continue the regeneration into Jon Pertwee. And defeat a load of daleks in the process. As you do.

Or does he? We don't really know now even after watching it again!

Still - we've had new offers of help for some of our effects and I guess when the edits have been further trimmed and locked down we'll be able to be more precise on what effects need doing and receive some more offers of help. Indeed David surprised us all tonight with the Glass Galleon scene. On the War Games release you briefly see a ship firing on the TARDIS. Not a cut-out TARDIS as someone has suggested - it is actually our own one shot against a cso background and then superimposed on the seascape with the galleon. In Devious this never happened - well not quite like that! We had used that clip for ages to help tell the story which is why it was in the DVD montage but in reality the ship was to fade to transparent as it is made of glass. It is the funeral ship of a great princess and in a tradition like the Viking traditions in Zetand and Norway etc the ship was to burn as a farewell. This sight is so amazing people sneak illicitly to the beaches to watch. The Doctor arrives there in his TARDIS to watch and meets up with his future companions who are somewhat miffed he has blown their cover and landed them in a trap. Meanwhile the galleon fades away amid showers of sparks and rainbow light effects, and tonight David you managed to convey that across for the first time for us all and it was great to watch.

Now we can't share all of that with you on the website as we don't show clips of course but we will attempt to put up some screen grabs at some point or something or other when we get a copy!

However what I (Ashley) wanted to make you aware of on the website tonight is the fact that Arthur has handed us a whole new set of images; from black and white photos to colour slides and images all from various parts of our filming over the years. It's great to see more images of us back in the 1990s when we were young. Those of you that have been following us over the years may enjoy seeing these photos - the new viewers amongst you will detect from the shots that the website is really a mechanism to document the process behind the filming and the people involved more than anything else. It's the story of a group of friends who wanted to make a film. So we chose Doctor Who 'cause we liked that best. And so we built some sets and got on with it. And then 18 years passed and we realised we hadn't finished it. Still, in the meantime we all went off and had lives.

Here's the first of Arthur's new / old pictures...

Arthur, Tony, David, Lynette and Anthony taking a break

Arthur, Tony, David, Lynette and Anthony circa 1991/2

The original of this pic is 1.7MB and very sharp so I hope you'll forgive this web-ready version. Look how relaxed we are. What do you think we are saying.... perhaps "do you know - eighteen years from now some of what we film will be on DVD" .... "blimey - what's a DVD???"

the first part of the image archive discovery is here

archive 2009

14 Dec 2009

Now here's something we have been thinking about for a while. It's a sensible way forward for...

9 Nov 2009

Well we have made some progress on things but not as much as we would have liked.... It's all...

1 Sep 2009

Alex from Type 40 Models in Worthing (plug for a friend of Devious!) had supervised the...

26 Aug 2009

Now we know little of these sorts of thing as you all know, as indeed we know little about...

18 Aug 2009

Direct from our art department (as if we have one!) - and with full apologies to the designers...

14 Aug 2009

We've started to go through Arthur's excellent archive and we'll be putting up new images to the...

7 Aug 2009

We've got the first photo of Alex's new dalek from the 1st of August Worthing Doctor Who event....

5 Aug 2009

We thought as we have so many images of our fleet of daleks they really ought to have their own...

25 Jul 2009

Well I've just got back half an hour ago from the first showing of Devious for years. Not since...

22 Jul 2009

One of our troop - Arthur - who played both Aturo and the infamous "Wiggy" in Devious has just...

20 Jul 2009

Hi there followers! On the day that the first new image of the Eleventh Doctor in costume is...

8 Jul 2009

UPDATE - see it here on the BBC site.. link - will only work for 24 hours and prob only UK

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6 Jul 2009

Well, the webmaster for this site is on holiday this week so updates may be a little...

6 Jul 2009

Well, the webmaster for this site is on holiday this week so updates may be a little sparse....

1 Jul 2009

Well, it's by no means definite, and we're nervous about saying too much, but... we may appear...

26 Jun 2009

(update -26 June) Well, we've just pushed the button to change servers. Ashley has...

18 Jun 2009

(update - 18 June) Well, the bubble is about to burst! After all the years of Devious being...

11 Jun 2009

(update - 11 June) Stephen from the team will apparently be speaking on air on BBC Radio...

5 Jun 2009

Meanwhile Ashley's been rummaging around our huge archive to bring you some new(ish) images (...

27 May 2009

It's the exciting news to beat all exciting news in fact!...

22 May 2009

...would be good to have of course, and with luck we'll be able to supply you with some soon...

6 May 2009

In a long line of excuses for the lack of progress in the modelwork department, Ashley has now...

12 Mar 2009

... is still continuing - reaching a climax in fact. The Two and a Halfth Doctor is still around...

3 Mar 2009

Hope you are all out there doing something special for this year's Comic Relief. Even if it's...

11 Feb 2009

... to any one who has arrived here for the first time - perhaps as a result of reading about us...

13 Jan 2009

Just sorting through a few things and found these pics from November (08!) in which you can see...